Oct 11, 2012 5:00pm PDT
'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell is our man in the spin room tonight. the one and only chris matthews is at centre college in danville, kentucky, the site of tonight's debate. chris, is this unusually high stakes for a vice presidential debate? >> well, it's great being with you, again, rachel, and everyone else tonight at msnbc. look, it's great. it's great in its importance because of what happened last week. the frustration from the democratic base, i expressed it a acceleratisimilar version of the frustration of the failure of the president to bring out all this issues that his paid advertising, speeches have made all year but for some reason he didn't bring up. the most powerful issues. i'm going to one through four or five. by one word. you know the one word. vouchers. the way paul ryan wants to deal with health care which won't work for medicare. personhood. the way he wants to basically in effect criminalize, turn it into murder abortion decisions. the emergency room. where this presidential candidate of the republican
Oct 11, 2012 7:00am EDT
, steve king lost some base support. democrats would love to pick up this seat. guest: i'm sure they would love to pick up the seat. the problem is they've already thrown in the towel. the rest of the democratic super pacs given up the seats. i'm glad they wasted money on this seat. steve king will win overwhelmingly. getting back to the budget. let's focus on the fact that barack obama budget was put in the house and senate and it got zero vote. that's a stilling argument. he's gotting zero votes, none in the house and none in the senate. listen, when you're negotiating, it's hard to negotiate with yourself. the democrats never figured out a way to get their whole coalition of democrats around everything. we look forward to negotiating with them and look forward to increasing job growth. host: robby mook, have democrats given up on vilsack? guest: that's untrue. we invested tremendous amount of money in the district. the real story here is this race is in play at all in the first place. the reason that it's in play, before there was a tea party steve king, was the tea party.
Oct 10, 2012 12:00pm EDT
in light of what was the last week in denver? >> steve, i think he touched on the biggest reason why this debate could be more important than these under cards typically are. that is because there is pressure on joe biden to stand and deliver, and to change the narrative from what we've had the last few days. which is a fact given president obama's weak performance in denver, that mitt romney for the first time it seemed a real bump in the polls, and in some states is polling narrowly ahead. so i think biden will try to turn that around, put paul ryan and the gop ticket back on the defensive and at the same time the burden is on trying to keep the mojo going, keep romney's sort of balance here a life released a few more days until the president and mitt romney face off again next week. so i think that's the biggest reason why this thing matters. also one important point and that is this is one of the first perhaps the only campaign where one side is really campaigning against the policies of the other parties vice president as much as they're running against the other party's preside
Oct 11, 2012 11:00pm EDT
go back further. we look at steve camp or jack kemp. in 96, did he drown out voters? no, he may spending his own money, all you could do at that time on his own campaign made it more possible that bob dole might do so that other gop candidates in the race got heard from. everybody did. we go back to the last election before the passage of the campaign act of 1968. mccarthy got his campaign running in a weakened because a bunch of people given 10 million bucks, which you can't do. did that drown people out or did that make to that drown people out or did that make >> well, clearly, no lack of disagreement on >> well, clearly, no lack of disagreement on this panel. i do want to go back to you, ken. you've been looking not tracking the money. in addition to these questions of how much influence individuals have come and there's so question of what the state of play. one of the thinkers interested in a something you wrote about, that george soros warned the bible or virtual bible that he wouldn't donate to the super pac and he decided to. so what do you think is changing, kim, in th